There's a moment that happens when someone walks into a well-considered recording studio for the first time. They slow down a little. They look around. And then they say some version of the same thing: I don't know what it is, but I just want to make music here. That reaction isn't accidental. And it isn't the gear.

I've been building production music catalogs since 1996. What I describe here isn't the story of someone naive to the music business… it's the story of someone who kept making the same structural mistake while getting better at everything else.

WordLess. A podcast in which we simply let the music do the talking…. which is what we’ve always tried to do at The License Lab historically anyway.

Proud of this unique album I made for The License Lab... with pedal steel and modular synths from Philippe Bronchtein (Mickey Guyton, The War & Treaty), drums and percussion from Jason McGerr (Death Cab For Cutie, Tegan And Sara).